You could say that the Seat 850 offered the Spanish people a real range for the first time: 2 and 4 door bodies, Normal and Special versions, Coupé and convertible. Something very common now, but very novel in the 60s. Today, thanks to Seat en película, we are going to test them all… even the great forgotten… #cars #classiccars #seat Become a member of this channel to enjoy benefits: / hermetic garage Today’s video is very, very special… Because at Garaje Hermético we like to drive on the road, leave the studio and drive with the cars… something we do very often, but without cameras… this time it will be with cameras. And it’s a video that’s possible thanks to our good friend Jaime Sánchez, “alma mater” of “Seat en película” who always puts his “living” museum at our disposal, because as you know, it’s the best collection of Classic Seats in the World and all of his cars are ready to get in, turn the key and start. Jaime will help us with the conclusions of this video. The 850 was born to succeed the 600 but also to complement it above as an intermediate model between the 600 and the 1100. And it was a more modern car and better in every way than the Seat 600. Let's look at the timeline. The Fiat 600 was introduced in 1955 and the Fiat 850 in 1964, that is, 9 years later. In other words, it was a clearly more modern car with many improvements. In the case of the Seat, the 600 was born in 1957 and the 850 in 1966, in some cases two years after the Fiats and they were models exactly identical to the Italian ones. Even at the beginning, in the case of the Seat 600, with some elements brought from Italy, although it was quickly nationalized one hundred percent. The 850 is not a big car… but it is bigger than the 600, almost 8 percent longer, from 3,295 to 3,570 – those almost 30 cm, which were greatly gained in rear habitability, were a lot… The engine went from 633 cm3 and 21.5 HP of the first Seat 600 to 843 cm3 and 37 HP of the first Seat 850. In this case the increase is much greater, more than 30 percent in displacement and more than 70 percent! in power… And then more powerful versions of the 850 would arrive… we will dedicate a few minutes to this engine. And although the brilliant Dante Giacosa designed the 850 based on the 600, many things were improved, among others the heating, which in the 850 was “real”, with a small radiator located in front, between the seats, which heated the air in winter… and in summer. Because if your “eight and a half”, as it was also called, got hot in summer, you turned on the heating and had an “extra” radiator. The 847 cc engine was a very “normal” engine on paper with a belt-driven side camshaft. But it was a very well-made engine that revved with pleasure at high revs. I have often commented on the 850 Special that it was a kind of predecessor to the GTi. With the same 843 cc displacement, but with a dual-body carburettor with differentiated opening and a very efficient 4-in-1 exhaust manifold, it achieved no less than 47 hp at 6,200 rpm and went up to almost 7,000 rpm. In a car weighing around 700 kg, good aerodynamics in terms of CX and especially in terms of the front section and very short ratios, which allowed the engine to rev high, the performance was surprising. This engine was even more complete with the displacement increased to 903 cm3 and 52 HP, the engine that was used in the Sport Coupé, the second version of the Coupé, and which later reached its maximum diffusion in the Seat 127 and even in the Panda. It even reached 1,010 in the Seat 127 Special… Seat 850 Normal. The Seat 850 was born with the Normal version that over time was called 850 D as we have said with a 37 HP engine. Seat 850 Special. The Special, in addition to its equipment details, was distinguished as we have said by its engine. It was called Special, Special Luxury, D Special and D Special Luxury. We are going to test only one, but here we have two… that you will never see together anywhere else. Even today this car on winding roads has, as was said before, a notable “reprise”… Seat 850 Sport Coupé. There was an initial Coupé and then this Sport Coupé, with a bonnet that looks like a spoiler, with 4 headlights and above all with the 903 engine… This car, in red, was my uncle’s dream… and that of many people in the early 80s. Seat 850 Sport spider. For me one of the most beautiful spiders in history… designed by my dear Giugiaro in his Bertone days… I had one that I adored, but in miniature. Seat 133: The great forgotten. A good journalist friend of mine said that the Seat 133 was an 850 “disguised” as a Seat 127. There is some truth to that, as they wanted to fill a commercial gap below the Seat 127 with this car which, in addition, by giving negative camber at the rear and positive camber at the front, was intended to behave almost like a front-wheel drive.