INTERVIEWEE’S NAME: Alicja Schnepf INTERVIEWEE’S BIOGRAPHY AND DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE TOPICS: https://sztetl.org.pl/pl/historia-mow... INTERVIEW BY: Józef Markiewicz RECORDING: Józef Markiewicz DATE OF RECORDING: December 16, 2015 COPYRIGHT TO THE RECORDING: POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews MOST IMPORTANT TOPICS: 00:00:04 – Childhood memories, tenement house in Muranów. 00:03:02 – Neighbors’ celebration of Jewish holidays, family relations with neighbors, description of the tenement house. 00:04:28 – Primary School No. 48 on Kowelska Street in Warsaw, father’s involvement in the activities of the parents’ committee, naming the school after Marshal Rydz-Śmigły. English: 00:06:35 – Childhood, school experiences. 00:10:10 – Father’s death in 1939. 00:11:07 – First months of the German occupation, father’s involvement in the Volunteer Battalions for the Defense of Warsaw, defense of Warsaw in 1939. 00:16:10 – Place of father’s death, burial on Krakowskie Przedmieście, exhumation of the body. 00:21:15 – Life in the first days after the capitulation of Warsaw. 00:23:48 – Education during the war: school of the Sisters of Charity, clandestine junior high school, 1st Municipal Vocational School; school textbooks during the occupation. 00:28:28 – Mother’s trips in search of food. 00:32:38 – The interviewee’s duties after her father’s death. 00:36:33 – Confiscation of food products by the Germans, the emotional costs of her mother’s trips. English: 00:38:41 – Renting a room, description of the tenement house on Oszmiańska Street, tenants. 00:44:45 – Visit in 1943 to the home of Władysława Salonek and her daughter Bogda, where a Jewish girl and her mother were being hidden, description of the Salonek family’s apartment. 00:46:48 – Threat of a search of the Salonek family’s apartment, bringing in a Jewish girl and her mother, request for shelter, Jewish tenants: Anna Albert and her cousin Nina Sandel. 00:48:36 – Food brought from the Chamber of Crafts, nutrition during the war. 00:52:27 – Refusal to readmit those hidden by the Salonek family. 00:52:55 – The realities of hiding: closing doors, hiding the presence of Jewish women from the tenants of the tenement house, smuggling food. English: 00:56:54 – Marysia and Krysia – Anna Albert’s daughters hiding in Warsaw; change of identity; visits to the house by Marysia and Krysia. 01:00:34 – Krysia’s arrest and release. 01:02:05 – Neighbours’ suspicions, hiding Anna and Nina in a closet, receiving an anonymous tip. 01:05:51 – Transfer of Anna and Nina, who were in hiding, to their grandparents’ apartment at 30 Krochmalna Street. 01:08:47 – Transport of Anna and Nina from the apartment at Oszmiańska Street to the apartment at Krochmalna Street. 01:11:42 – Search of the tenement house on Oszmiańska Street, life in tension before the next search and the disclosure of those in hiding. 01:23:28 – Colonies of the Central Welfare Council in Świder near Warsaw in 1944, RGO mission and help for the civilian population of Warsaw. 01:29:12 – Outbreak of the Warsaw Uprising, assembly point at Castle Square, shooting in Praga and the interlocutor’s injury. 01:33:55 – Accommodation in the interlocutor’s apartment of a Jewish couple Wacław and Ewa, their cousin Stasia, and Feliks Winiarczyk. 01:36:20 – Loss of contact with Marysia and Krysia Albert. 01:36:51 – Mobilization of men to dig trenches, Wacław’s escape, return home. 01:40:08 – Hiding place in bed, Wacław in hiding. 01:44:47 – Arrival of Red Army troops, reaction. 01:47:56 – Explosion on Oszmiańska Street, Wacław’s injury. 01:51:44 – Further fate of Wacław and Feliks, return of Krysia and Marysia Albert. English: 01:53:51 – The apartment as a place of returns and help. 02:00:55 – The fate of Krysia and Marysia Albert in the post-war period: the mother’s departure for Szczecin at the invitation of Krysia and Maria Albert, emigration to Berlin and loss of contact. 02:05:50 – The fate of the husband, who survived the Holocaust, education in Drohobych, internship in Łódź, stay in Kazakhstan. 02:16:21 – Renewing contact with Marysia Albert. 02:18:14 – The post-war fate of the husband: professional career, unfounded accusations. 02:21:05 – The circumstances of awarding the title Righteous Among the Nations to the interlocutor’s mother (Natalia Szczepaniak). 02:29:40 – Reflections on the help provided during the occupation. 02:25:44 – Trip to Israel in 1990 at the invitation of Harvey Sarner, meeting with the management of the Yad Vashem Institute. Discover the POLIN Museum's oral history collection: https://sztetl.org.pl/pl/historia-mow... 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