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Young and old statesmen face the world map. In the first act: a former minister and former goddess reflects on her trajectory. By Flora Thomson-DeVeaux. In the second act: a former guerrilla and former president leaves lessons for the future. By Carol Pires. Get to know the Fio da Meada podcast, a new original from Rádio Novelo, in which Branca Vianna talks to guests who have something to say about the most diverse subjects, to inspire you to weave your own point of view. Every Monday on Spotify and other audio apps: https://encurtador.com.br/WUDSO