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Episode date: 02/03/1999 #Ahmed_Mansour #Without_Borders #Abdelwahab_Elmessiri The thinker and expert in the Zionist movement, Dr. Abdelwahab Elmessiri, spoke with Ahmed Mansour on Without Borders about Jews, Zionism, Judaism, the difference between them, and the nature of the conflict with the Zionists. 00:00 Introduction 04:01 The reasons for Elmessiri's hostility to the Zionist movement 06:01 The truth about Zionism's desire to coexist with the Arabs 07:57 Immigration to Palestine, and the deception of the Jews 08:49 Peace operations, do they contradict Elmessiri's opinion on the Zionist movement? 10:16 The constants of the Zionist movement 11:34 Can the Zionists achieve their beliefs despite the Arab presence in Palestine? 12:58 The difference between Jews, Judaism, and Zionism 15:16 Who is a Jew, and what is the difference between a Jew and Jewish society? 16:44 Jewish lobbies and their conflict with the thesis of the Jewish community 19:12 Who employs the other, Israel, employs the West or vice versa? 22:42 The essence of the Jewish question 23:24 The truth about the conspiracy theory and the role of religion in Zionism 25:31 Jewish political and economic control in the West: is it natural or a conspiracy? 28:42 The difference between the Jew, the Israeli and Zionism 30:36 Dismantling and reassembling, and accusations of serving Zionism 31:58 Anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism? 32:52 Audience questions 37:47 The relationship between Zionism and Freemasonry 40:19 Is there any form of cooperation between Zionism and Freemasonry? 41:02 The truth about the protocols and do they agree with the current reality? 42:52 Which is more dangerous, the real Jew or the Zionist? 43:52 Can the Palestinian element disappear as happened with the Native Americans? 45:17 Audience questions 49:18 Who is behind the funding of the Encyclopedia of Jews and Zionism 52:22 Audience questions 54:47 The possibility of the Jewish character changing and coexisting with the other 56:33 Zionization of the Arabs through presenting the Jewish vision from within 57:34 The basis of the Zionists’ vision, and Al-Masry’s criticism of it 59:01 The concept of just peace 59:33 Dismantling Israel, and its relationship to just peace 1:00: Audience comments 1:02:53 Did Al-Masry contradict himself in his talk about the conspiracy theory, Zionism, and the West? 1:06:25 Jewish conspiracies and the protocols, a reading of reality or a conspiracy 1:08:15 Al-Messiri's vision of the nature of the Arab-Zionist conflict 1:09:10 Jewish conspiracies or plots against Al-Messiri 1:09:49 The encyclopedia and its hoped-for impact on Arab thought The Egyptian thinker Dr. Abdel-Wahab Al-Messiri spoke with Ahmed Mansour on the Without Borders program a few days after the release of his encyclopedia, which sparked many Arab and international reactions, the Encyclopedia of Jews and Zionism, which included a new and different vision of Jews, Zionism, Freemasonry, and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Al-Messiri responded to many questions about the ideas contained in the encyclopedia, the most prominent of which was explaining the reason for his hostility to the Zionist movement and the truth of Zionism's desire to coexist with the Arabs, and whether the image of Palestine was clear to the Jews at the time of immigration, the peace processes and their contradiction with Al-Messiri's thought, and the foundations on which the Zionist movement is based. Al-Masry also explained his vision of the difference between Jews, Judaism and Zionism, and whether Jewish lobbies in the West conflict with his idea of the Jewish community, and answered a question about who employs the other, the Jews or the West, and who moves the other. While he stressed that he is not hostile to Jews, the situation was different with Zionism, and he spoke about the relationship between Jews and Zionism and which is more dangerous, the Jew or the Zionist, and denied the possibility of the Palestinian element disappearing from the conflict as happened in America with the Red Indians. He also conveyed his vision regarding the conspiracy theory that the Arab world believes in, and which is supported by the book The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and the essence of the Jewish question, and the role of religion in Zionism, and responded to accusations regarding serving Zionism. Regarding the encyclopedia, Al-Masry indicated that it is his own funding, and no research institution stood behind it, and he responded to questions about the possibility of the Jewish personality coexisting with the other, and whether there is a current effort to Zionize the Arabs and the nature of the Arab-Zionist conflict, and what he was exposed to in terms of plots and conspiracies against the encyclopedia, and how he expects his encyclopedia to influence Arab thought.