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Scientists must come down from their ivory towers. It is only right that they appear in public. Not to provide answers to all questions—infantilization. But rather, to invite anyone who hears it to think too. Re-uploading a snippet of my conversation with @gwirjawan Endgame #152 in 2023. In the future, I want to invite my friends to discuss with more figures on this channel—in a new series, “Chronicles”. Stay tuned soon. #BagusMuljadi #GitaWirjawan #Endgame ----------------------- 00:00 - The Importance of Epistemological Culture 03:25 - Stop Latah Policies 05:24 - The World Can Learn from Indonesia