They were in "Storm-Z" and PMC "Wagner", and now they defend Ukraine: a candid interview with "RDK" soldiers

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One spent 4 years behind bars, the other 2, and then FSB officers visited their prisons: they promised the "convicts" immediate release, salary, and expungement of their criminal records. If they agreed to go to the front. This is how Russians Mikhail "Pers" and Vladislav "White" ended up in the Russian occupation forces in Ukraine: the "Storm-Z" units and the "Wagner" PMC. One purposefully went to the front to go over to the Ukrainian side, and the other even managed to take part in the assault on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But now both of them, as part of the "RDK", are fighting side by side with Ukrainian soldiers and dream of "liberating the lands of Ukraine from the occupiers and overthrowing the Kremlin regime." What so radically changed the worldview of the former Russian prisoners, and what did they understand on the battlefield? Why did the commanders of "Storm-Z" put "Pers" in a pit for 4 days: without food, water, and clothing? And what other "punishments" did they use on their subordinates? Why did "White" not surrender to the Ukrainian soldiers to the last and was afraid of "zeroing", that is, a bullet from his own colleagues from the PMC "Wagner" or other Russian military? How did Mykhailo and Vladislav fall into the hands of Ukrainian soldiers, and what were they struck by? And also, how did they already participate in the de-occupation of Ukrainian territory together with the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Watch the interview with the fighters of the "RDK" only on Radio Liberty. Author: Taras Levchenko 01:03 Do they understand the Ukrainian language? And what, they say, is the common goal of the "RDK" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine? 01:45 What went "wrong" in the life of "White"? And why did he end up in prison in Russia? 02:52 How did "Pers" "deceive Russian state companies" and how much did he earn as part of his criminal group? 04:05 Why does "Pers" believe that he ended up behind bars not so much for crime, but "for his position"? 05:16 "There are prisons in Russia where you will always be blue. They will constantly beat you," or what is "moose food" 06:07 "You are like a pet" for guards in Russian prisons 07:06 How are Russian prisoners recruited to "Storm-Z" and PMC "Wagner"? 08:03 Did they understand that "they are going to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians"? 09:34 Convicts in the Russian Federation who are ready to go to the front are "offered a salary of 205 thousand rubles a month." Do they get paid? But who, according to the contract, is supposed to do this? 10:52 "It was savage to receive orders from people who were in the same prison with me" 12:02 How long did you spend in Ukraine as occupiers? How did you train? But what does "zeroing" your own people in the units of "Storm-Z" and PMC "Wagner" mean? 13:31 What is "Storm-Z" in real life, not in the news of the Russian media? "An interesting story about convicts and a tank" from "Pers" 15:56 "Ears to be stretched out, beaten with sticks, put in a pit" - what is the "discipline" in "Storm-Z"? 16:45 How did "White" go on an assault against the Armed Forces of Ukraine? What are the tactics of the Russian Armed Forces and in particular the PMC "Wagner", and what do they do with deserters there? 19:02 “20-30 people went on a mission in “Storm-Z”, and 5 returned” 20:14 Why do Russian soldiers complain to the Kremlin about the lack of provisions or ammunition, but do not ask the very purpose of the war against Ukraine? 21:26 Why did “White” not surrender to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and what surprised him about Ukrainian soldiers? 23:06 “The biggest delusion on Russian TV”, – “Pers” about nationalism and Nazism and why does a “Russian” have no nationality? 25:09 “Pers” tells how he surrendered to go over to the side of Ukraine 28:59 A turning point in “White’s” life? Or why did he refuse an exchange and return to the Russian Federation 29:46 “Ukraine is fighting for its land, for its people, for its children”, or why does “White” believe that he can “fix everything”? 30:35 “In the “RDK” I have everything I need for combat. They explain everything normally. And in the “Wagner” PMC they don’t train, they torture” 31:04 How, together with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they liberated the Ukrainian territory near Avdiivka from the occupiers? 31:48 The role of Taras Shevchenko in the life of “Pers”, or what is this Russian citizen and his colleagues from the “RDK” fighting for now? Subscribe to Radio Liberty's YouTube channels Radio Liberty Ukraine: http://bit.ly/radiosvoboda-ukraine Programs and broadcasts: http://bit.ly/radiosvoboda-youtube We are on social media / radiosvoboda.org / radiosvoboda / radio.svoboda https://telegram.me/svoboda_radio App Store http://bit.ly/RadioSvoboda-AppleStore Google Play http://bit.ly/Radiosvoboda-GooglePlay #war #russians #UAV #RDK #wagner #storm #RadioLiberty

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