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The spiritual is often contrasted with the physical. It is believed that psychologists are only interested in the carnal component of a person, while priests, on the contrary, talk only about the soul, putting physiology in the background. But is this approach correct? Watch a fascinating conversation between a theologian and a psychologist exploring the depths of the human soul: from the fight against inner monsters and the paths to coming to God to life on autopilot and resentment towards parents. Maxim Kalinin and Natalia Inina will together consider the causes of our passions and fears, the sources of our love and forgiveness. Host: Konstantin Matsan https://t.me/MatsanKo Guests: ????Maxim Kalinin - researcher of the Christian East Syrian mystical tradition, senior lecturer in the Department of Biblical Studies of the Moscow Theological Academy ????Natalia Inina - psychologist and psychotherapist, lecturer at Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov Watch other episodes of the podcast "District Council" with scientists: BRAIN AND EVIL. Conversation between a neurobiologist and a theologian • BRAIN AND EVIL. Conversation between a neurobiologist and a ... IMMORTALITY. The view of a geneticist and a priest • IMMORTALITY. The view of a geneticist and a priest ... Listen to podcasts of the Foma magazine on Yandex music https://music.yandex.ru/label/5016197 Timestamps 0:00 - Intro. 1:15 - Asceticism in psychology and theology 5:32 - How does psychology help not to live on autopilot? 7:35 - The role of the unconscious in our lives 11:25 - What are the definitions of the word "soul"? 16:33 - Where do our passions live, and where do they come from? 18:34 - Crisis of psychology 21:11 - Everything sacred has been removed from psychology. How did it turn out? 25:06 - The connection between body and soul in theology 29:45 - The parable about the soul and body at the Last Judgment 31:01 - The connection between body and soul in psychology 34:53 - How do childhood traumas prevent us from building relationships? 38:02 - Aerophobia turned out to be a childhood fear not related to heights 40:56 - Taking care of the body as something that God gave us 41:45 - How did Archimandrite Iannuariy (Ivliev) define the word "body"? 43:42 - What did the Syrian mystics say about the connection between body and soul? 48:17 - We are all afraid of the monsters inside ourselves 50:36 - The image of Leviathan and its meaning 51:33 - On taming the inner beast 54:16 - How to forgive parents for a terrible childhood? 1:00:06 - What did the Syrian mystics say about forgiving relatives? 1:01:01 - Each of us has benefits 1:02:32 - Stages of human development in society 1:06:38 - Society has serious problems with adulthood 1:08:01 - Psychology helps a person grow up 1:09:30 - What is suitable for an adult is not suitable for a child 1:10:29 - The commandments are written for people at different stages of development 1:13:25 - Theology and psychology are allies 1:18:13 - Where does faith in God come from? 1:23:43 - Why is Kalinin not a theologian, but a philologist? 1:24:11 - When are theological systems effective? 1:26:26 - What type of people come to faith because of hatred of the world? 1:28:25 - Atheists have problems with their own father 1:29:08 - Neurotic and internal religiosity SUBSCRIBE and turn on NOTIFICATION about publications so as not to miss new videos Director Matvey Kipnis Director of photography Andrey Lisichenko Foma magazine: Website http://www.foma.ru Yandex. Zen https://zen.yandex.ru/foma.ru VKontakte https://vk.com/foma_magazine Telegram https://t.me/foma_ru_glavnoe Rutube https://rutube.ru/channel/23652186/ Support Foma magazine https://lp.foma.ru/donate/?utm_source...