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A dialogue with the writer, screenwriter, journalist, novelist, and multi-faceted and skilled personality, Belal Fadl. It is not a dialogue in the sense of interrogation, but rather a dialogue between two writers from different literary contexts. They met in exile and after years of living in America. We are trying to find out what it means to write from the outside about those inside. We do not look with Belal at our experience, but we also go to the experience of Bayram Al-Tunsi and Mahmoud Al-Saadani, and how Belal saw their writing about exile and about Egypt from the outside, before he himself left. Then we go to the story of the great Al-Saadani with Belal Fadl and his advice for a happy life, which he summarized in two pieces of advice that Belal unfortunately did not adhere to. Then, what is America? Do you know what it is? I do not know, we do not know. But one comes to America and thinks it is a new beginning, then finds himself in the heart of a recycling and production machine, and someone has given him a badge, an identity, and a framework that he cannot go beyond, so how did Bilal manage to escape the trap of American identity politics, then an exchange of chatter about the virtue of contradiction, and that it is the nature of things and good for human health to begin his opinions and re-criticize himself, and apologize when possible, with this the cloud clears even a little, and the sun shines even for a few moments ---------------------------------- --