Today I bring you an interview that will make you reconsider many uncomfortable truths. On this occasion, I am joined by Manuel Avilés, a name that evokes courage and determination, known for having fought tirelessly against ETA in the hardest years of terrorism in Spain. His experience on the front line, both in the field of security and in the penitentiary system, has given him a unique and heartbreaking vision of human nature and the institutions that govern our society. In this interview, Manuel immerses us in the intricate and dark universe of prisons, where the worst and the best of human beings coexist. We talk about murderers and paedophiles, and the deep moral degradation that is found in the shadows of prisons, where souls are forged and destroyed day by day. But we don't stop there. Manuel also dares to touch on the thorniest issues: corruption within the church, an institution that, in his words, has turned money into a business, tarnishing its principles and betraying those who trust it. With a direct and unreserved style, he invites us to reflect on the power of institutions that should serve the people, but which often sink into rot. An intense, honest conversation full of uncomfortable truths, where we explore the darkest corners of the human mind, the prison system and the institutions that govern our lives. If you thought you had already heard everything, this interview will prove you wrong. Testimony of the interview verified by magistrate Juan Alberto Belloch Julbe. [00:00:00] - Introduction [00:01:57] - Manuel's experience in San Antonio prison in 1982. [00:02:55] - Memories of life in prison and ultra-right prisoners. [00:04:04] - Manuel shares his love for Cartagena and his personal story. [00:05:29] - Reflections on education in a priest's school. [00:11:12] - Manuel's decision to work in prison after passing the civil service exam. [00:14:03] - The positive influence of his mother and grandmother on his life. [00:19:54] - Discussion on pedophilia and the difference between illness and evil. [00:21:15] - Discussion on the nature of psychopaths and their lack of treatment. [00:23:46] - Story about a drug trafficker who killed hundreds and his disregard for life. [00:29:25] - Reflections on life in prison and human nature. [00:31:00] - Observations on social inequality in the judicial system. [00:34:14] - Criticism of the impunity of political figures and the manipulation of laws. [00:39:45] - Judicial process from arrest to trial and pretrial detention. [00:41:55] - Comparison of judicial treatment between rich and poor in the system. [00:41:33] - Court decides whether a convicted person goes to prison or waits at home. [00:42:08] - Author talks about his experience and the process of writing his book. [00:43:02] - He remembers his youth and life plans before entering prison. [00:44:12] - Receives an urgent call from the general director in Madrid. [00:46:36] - Meets acquaintances and they discuss a law on sexual education. [00:49:42] - Talks about the origin of religions and their relationship with death. [00:52:10] - Comments on the historical figure of Jesus Christ and his impact. [00:54:01] - Emphasizes the importance of seeing the people behind the files. [00:55:14] - Relates to his meeting with bishops and his criticism of the church. [01:04:30] - Describes his relationship with ETA members and his interest in newspapers. [01:07:07] - Comments on his knowledge of ETA and its leaders in Nanclares. [01:09:03] - Is moved by the death of a twin child in an attack. [01:12:04] - Relates to an attack on Irene Villas and its emotional impact. [01:13:00] - Describes his outrage at seeing ETA members after the attack. [01:15:13] - Confronts an ETA spokesman about his behavior. [01:17:21] - Talks about the recording of the Nanclares tapes and their dissemination. [01:21:00] - Describes his daily life with a bodyguard and the use of a revolver. [01:23:49] - Recounts his decision to ask for the removal of the personal bodyguard. [01:25:03] - Notices a suspicious car with two men near his house. [01:25:51] - Confronts the occupants showing a revolver. [01:27:29] - The men flee upon seeing the weapon. [01:31:32] - Comments on independence and the origin of ETA. [01:34:03] - Discusses the figure of Franco and his role in history. [01:36:04] - Explains how Franco came to power after the coup. [01:43:41] - Talks about the seriousness of madness and the suffering of the sick. [01:44:23] - Offers advice on living life ethically. #eta #terrorism #bomb #police #commissioner #ETA