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The end of a cycle implies an exodus. Moving from one paradigm to another. The disappearance of a system and the emergence of another. New ideas replacing old ones. Leaving a comfort zone for one of uncertainty. We are in an exodus, perhaps the most shocking because it affects us, due to the speed of the changes, and with the emotional baggage of times not so far away. The story of the exodus of the Hebrew people, from Egypt to the Promised Land by Jehovah, may give us some clues, signs, to navigate the present. Because... are we going towards another Land, perhaps not so promised but announced? We spoke with Emilio Carrillo, a renowned economist, writer and lecturer, with extensive academic work and social and political management, professor at Spanish and foreign universities, and consultant for the United Nations. Official website: http://emiliocarrillobenito.blogspot.com Yourself website: https://tumismo.es Facebook: @RevistaTuMismo Instagram: @revistatumismo Twitter: @revistatumismo Music: Yourself - Rocco San