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Salman Rushdie and Roberto Saviano have been friends for a long time. They have a lot in common, certainly a great strength, which has allowed them to face the difficulties of a life lived under the control of an escort. But that's not all that brings them together. There's much more. They recently met in Turin, during the Salone del Libro, and we suggested they chat freely, without filters, for the pleasure of doing so and the beauty of exchanging ideas, points of view, emotions. Almost forty minutes of discussion, in which the two writers range over the most varied topics. Starting from Rushdie's first encounter with Italy, which occurred when he was a college student. Arriving without money, he visited first Rome and then Florence. He discovered them by walking, especially Rome, thanks to a guide who offered walking tours of the city. While in Florence he was lucky enough to meet a friend from university, who had a little more money than him, and therefore could move around by car. One day, while he was sitting in a square drawing, he saw people crowding around a car and realized that there must be someone famous. It was Monica Vitti, whom he had met through Antonioni's films and of whom he was a huge fan. Italy returns in Rushdie's stories because of the authors he has read and loved. There is Calvino, of whom he has read and reread everything. The magical dimension he finds in novels such as The Baron in the Trees, The Cloven Viscount and The Nonexistent Knight still intrigues him today. Rushdie tells how he met Calvino in London and how he was terrified when he asked Calvino to introduce him at the only public meeting he had planned. After that event the two began a beautiful and long friendship. Rushdie says: "I met him several times, him and his wife Chichita. He was really kind to me. And it was he who introduced me to the Italian public by writing a great and beautiful review of my novel Midnight's Children. Two pages in Repubblica". Eco is also an author he loves a lot, even though the beginning of their relationship was not the easiest, on the contrary. Rushdie panned Facault's novel The Pendulum, which he did not like at all. But this did not stop two giants like them from becoming friends. And we continue on the themes of music, with the first meeting in Manhattan between Saviano and Rushdie for the Stevie Wonder concert, to then range from painting, to love and life lived under escort. Production: Jacopo Milesi Coordination: Chiara Giorcelli, Chiara Ottolini Direction: Claudio Sforza Editing: Alessandro Freno Stay up to date on all the upcoming books and initiatives by following our web channels: https://www.mondadori.it/ / mondadorilibri https://tiktok.com/librimondadori / librimondadori