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I list the products that I have been using for several years with satisfaction. STOP RUST KF BRAND liquid application by hand - RUST CONVERTER in spray can brand AUTO K - PHOSPHATING PRIMER brand BESA-F29 single component (industry) ZINC 182 single component FILLER PRIMER (NOT ANTI-RUST !!!) brand E CAR two component. ANTI-ETCHING PROFIX gray paintable. Application with blacksonne gun Don't forget the wax for hollow bodies... I'll tell you about it next time