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“Once the late Sasha Lipnytsky came to Kyiv, hugged me and Serhiy Lysenko and thanked us for not *banning. I ask: “In what sense?” He says: “Well, everyone *banned”,” recalls Oleksiy Kovzhun, a media expert and in the 1980s-1990s an important figure in the Kyiv rock scene. In the new issue of the music podcast “SuchTsukrMuz” he told Albert Tsukrenko about the underground of the 1980s, participation in Yeltsin’s elections, work with Tymoshenko and the transition to Ukrainian. And also about who Tsoi would support today and why he would only go to Moscow by tank. What important thing has Oleksiy Kovzhun done in your life? Write in the comments and receive a souvenir with our guest’s autograph. Support us with your likes and subscriptions — this is important for the promotion of the channel. Donate to hromadske bank in Monobank: https://send.monobank.ua/jar/6BYQbrQcUx 00:00 intro 01:04 about cultural resistance in the 1980s, subcultures and the construction battalion 05:50 about ties with the Russian underground and who Tsoi would support today 09:58 about the Ukrainian rock scene, marijuana and money 15:10 about Ukrainian pop music and "Territory A" 18:25 about complete freedom and the advertising campaign of the Third Assault Brigade 22:28 Kovzhun is a music lover and can music do anything else significant for humanity 27:47 "Russian music on the street is a political statement, and a shitty one at that" 29:05 what's wrong with Russians 32:13 why Kovzhun doesn't always speak Ukrainian 36:51 about Yeltsin's election, Moscow's "bohemia" in Berlin and Russophobia 41:09 about working as a political consultant, Tymoshenko and "Azov" 46:22 "I still can't come to terms with the loss": Oleksiy Kovzhun about his brother 54:17 Oleksiy Kovzhun sings in the studio for the first time