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Stanisław Obirek – cultural anthropologist, literary scholar, Americanist, former Jesuit, and Artur Nowak – advocate for victims of priests, talk to Karolina Oponowicz about the phenomenon of their joint book “Wąska droga. Czy odłem z Kościół” (“The Narrow Path. Why I Left the Church”), which is being published “at a turning point, when the number of people who retain religious sensitivity but are allergic to the institution of the church, which mismanages religious capital, is growing rapidly.” After 30 years spent in a monastery and 15 years outside the structures of the church, but also having access to a non-Polish perspective, Stanisław Obirek critically evaluates how the Polish Church changed during the pontificate of John Paul II and explains what people who “stand astride” the decision to leave the Church really experience. “Poczytawszy” (“I’ve Read”) is a book podcast by Agora Publishing House. Conversations about books, passions, the creative process and life – with authors, characters and other creators of the reading market in Poland. Book: https://kulturalnysklep.pl/product-po... Ebook: https://www.publio.pl/waska-sciezka-a... Audiobook: https://www.publio.pl/waska-sciezka-a... Instagram Having read: / having read