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In a new episode of the football podcast Kick-off, Valentijn Driessen, Jeroen Kapteijns and Hein Keijser look back on the tumultuous draw between FC Utrecht and Ajax (2-2). Driessen notes that Farioli's substitution policy could be a reason for the lack of fit players. But the draw was mainly due to FC Utrecht, one of the first teams to crack the Ajax code. Also: what would Liverpool do without Salah? And who is in pole position to secure the coveted second place in the Eredivisie. Subscribe here for free: http://bit.ly/AbonneerTelesport More from Telesport? Follow us on: Website: https://www.telesport.nl/ Facebook: / telesport.nl Instagram: / telegraaf.nl Twitter: / telesport #TELESPORT