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A conversation between historians about the events of the schism in the Orthodox Church. Evgeny Yuryevich Spitsyn (born March 8, 1966, Moscow) is a Russian teacher, publicist, and public figure. Author of textbooks and lecture courses on Russian history. Laureate of the Russian Writers' Union "Imperial Culture" Prize for 2016. Aleksandr Vladimirovich Pyzhikov is a Russian historian and statesman, a specialist in the history of Russia in the 1950s and 1960s. Doctor of Historical Sciences, professor.