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The recently presented study of Lithuania's defense power showed that in order to effectively resist Russia, an additional ten to fifteen billion euros should be spent in the next few years. Edmundas Jakilaitis talks with the initiators of this study, businessmen Jonas Tamulis and Tomas Kučinskas, about where to get money for defense strengthening. 00:01 Why was the defensive power study necessary? 04:19 The problem of withdrawing money from Lithuania. 05:30 Feeling of insecurity regarding the future of Lithuania. 09:43 15 billion euros for defense. 11:48 NATO will not defend from the first day. 16:00 Voting with money. 16:40 We need to show up against Trump. 17:37 Example of Taiwan. 20:41 Finnish and Estonian defense investments. 22:53 It's time to pay for the defense.