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Why do we in Germany know a lot about the challenges in the education system, but are slow to come up with changes and solutions? Jacob spoke to Dr. Kai Maaz about this. He is an educational researcher and heads the Leibniz Institute for Educational Research and Educational Information. In the interview, Kai explains how research and practice can work better together to make education fairer. In the video series "Bildungsbabbel", Jacob Chammon, Managing Director of the Deutsche Telekom Foundation, speaks with interesting guests about various educational topics.