Ten years ago, on April 15, 2013, a terrorist attack occurred in Boston during the marathon in the spectator area and at the finish line. Two explosions occurred 12 seconds apart, killing three people (one person died later in the hospital) and injuring more than 280 people. The officers on duty and the police immediately began evacuating spectators and participants of the race, and doctors and volunteers began helping the victims. The terrorist attack during the Boston Marathon is considered one of the largest in modern history. Kazakhstanis closely followed all the events, because two of our fellow countrymen became defendants in this case. Later, both received prison terms. One of them is Dias Kadyrbayev, today he is in our studio to talk about those events, the details of the case, the investigation and life in the punishment cell. Let us remind you: Dias and Azamat were held accountable for obstructing justice during the investigation of the terrorist attack at the Boston Marathon in 2013. They are not terrorists. The podcast took more than three hours, so we discuss in detail the entire journey of Diaz to the United States and his return to Kazakhstan. We talk about how they took Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's things and later threw them in a trash bin, about the relationship with Tsarnaev and his brother, about the immigration police, two years of life in a punishment cell and the reasons that helped him not to go crazy there, the first meeting with his relatives, the judge who passed the sentence. And of course, about how Diaz's life is going now. UPD: Important correction. Subsequently, the investigation established that the backpack also contained means from which it was possible to make a bomb: a jar of Vaseline and gutted fireworks. The FBI confirmed that it was impossible to make a bomb from those fireworks 00:00 start 02:04 Why is it important for you to be on the podcast today? 04:17 Why America? Why Boston? 07:00 "Are our guys really involved in this?" 8:31 About Dzhokhar and university life. 17:40 "We noticed that he was starting to distance himself from us. It was strange." 20:40 About the explosion at the Boston Marathon. 22:57 Dzhokhar did not arouse suspicion. 24:35 Let's restore the chronology of events. 27:51 About the message to Dzhokhar after the terrorist attack. "Take whatever you want from my room." 31:10 Continuation of the chronology of events. 36:28 About the bag. "Why the hell did we take that?" 40:38 About the detention and the special forces. 44:00 About the lizard. 45:25 What was happening in parallel. About the shootout, the chase, and the boat. 48:30 What was happening at this moment with Diaz and Azamat. About the interrogation and search. 52:50 "My mother was in the country." About the detention and the "migration check." 50:30 "Don't you have any idea where this is heading? There's no panic?" About immigration prison. 01:01:07 About immigration court. 01:04:33 The first meeting of three friends after 10 days of imprisonment. About federal court. 01:08:16 A prison in Massachusetts. About solitary confinement and shouts of "USA USA USA". 01:13:23 "The first two weeks were the hardest in prison." 01:15:52 About bail. 01:17:48 Continuation about prison. 01:19:46 About Tamerlan 01:24:09 When did you first meet Tamerlan? 01:26:09 What were Tamerlan and Dzhokhar's motives? 01:30:27 No one could believe that Dzhokhar could do such a thing. 01:33:29 About saving uncertainty and letters. 01:38:54 About communication through ventilation shafts. 01:40:41 How you held up. About books and parents. 01:42:13 About leaving solitary confinement and being transferred to other prisons. 01:45:15 Why did they give you the longest term? 01:49:15 What did the judge say when he announced the sentence? 01:51:34 About support from family, friends and strangers. 01:58:47 About Sarah and letters of support. 02:04:14 About music. 02:06:08 About a prison in Texas. Gangs. Access to a movie theater. Snitches, pedophiles and rapists. 02:16:22 "The leader of a Mexican gang is my buddy." 02:19:18 Continuation about prison. Calls home. 02:20:41 About dad. About mom. About little sister and brother. 02:25:27 "There is no hypocrisy in prison." A story about the most severe case in prison. 02:31:14 How not to go crazy during 2.5 years in a punishment cell? 02:37:52 About admitting guilt and the fairness of punishment. 02:40:13 About the gym in prison. 02:44:55 All the problems are in your head. 02:48:18 The day of release from prison. The way home. 02:54:55 Tom Cruise is a bad person 02:55:40 Return to Almaty. 03:01:18 About old and new friends. Do you keep in touch with Azamat? 03:04:38 What are you doing now? About work, family and relationships. 03:08:17 Is it hard for you to talk about your story? What advice would you give to young people applying abroad? https://we.fo/1581314826 -