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This is a fragment from De Ochtendspits with presenters Iwan Verrips and Bas van Werven. The Russians warn of a huge escalation of the conflict with Ukraine if the Ukrainians start deploying long-range missiles on Russian territory. Professor of War Studies Frans Osinga calls the fear of escalation with Russia 'completely unnecessary'. 'The fact that some countries are going along with this Kremlin rhetoric is a great shame.' Thumbnail: ANP Do you need more BNR in your life? Then also check out our podcasts and articles: https://www.bnr.nl/ Also follow us on other social media: Instagram: / bnrnieuwsradio TikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZML5nvq2A/ Twitter: / bnr Facebook: / bnr.nieuwsradio LinkedIn: / bnr-nieuwsradio Download the BNR app: https://www.bnr.nl/app