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We continue our conversations with Napalis Kitkauskas, a researcher of Vilnius castles and Vilnius cathedral, the Palace of the Lords. In previous conversations, we talked about his coming to explore Vilnius castles, about the Palace of the Lords. Well, today it's time to talk about Vilnius Cathedral. This is also one of the objects studied by Napalis Kitkauskas. His book "Dungeons of Vilnius Cathedral" (1994 edition and supplemented 2018 edition) is dedicated to him. The results of his research are reflected here.