The story of the ghetto uprising was dominated for many years by the narrative of fighters who rose up with weapons in their hands. But researchers increasingly often talk about civilians who were in the ghetto at the time. On April 19, 1943, about 50,000 Jews went down to hideouts and bunkers they had prepared themselves in the Warsaw ghetto to hide and stay underground for many days, fighting for each next day. They did not agree to be deported from Warsaw and in this way they resisted. Can we imagine that? A large number of them died in the ghetto, which was set on fire by the Germans, others were deported to labor camps in the Lublin region and were murdered in the autumn of 1943. In this episode of the podcast, Michał Kukawski, based on accounts and diaries written in underground hideouts, as well as interviews with witnesses, talks about the life and extermination of civilians during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Podcast guest: Magdalena Kicińska – reporter, editor-in-chief of "Pismo. Magazyn opinie". Author of the book "Pani Stefa" (2015), co-author of the book Teraz '43. Losy (2018, with Marcin Dziedzic) and co-editor and co-author of the collection of reportages Końca ich nie zmiana. O żydowskich nankach w czasu wojny (After all, I will not leave them. About Jewish caregivers during the war) (2018). Martyna Grądzka-Rejak – deputy head of the Scientific and Research Department at MGW. Doctor of humanities, historian, Jewish scholar, educator. She also works at the Historical Research Office of the Institute of National Remembrance. Author of, among others, The book Kobieta Żydowska w occupied Krakowie (1939–1945), nominated for the Historical Book of the Year award (2017). Aleksandra Wydro – Head of the Collections Department of the Warsaw Ghetto Museum. Karolina Sulej – reporter, PhD student at the Institute of Polish Culture, University of Warsaw. Curator of the exhibition on women fighting in the Warsaw Uprising. Author of, among others, the books Rzeczy Osobowych (Personal Things) and Historie Osobie. O ludziach i rzeczych w czasu wojny (Personal Histories. About People and Things in Wartime). Wiesława Młynarczyk – educator in the Education Department of the Warsaw Ghetto Museum. Doctor of Social Sciences, PhD in Social Sciences. In the years 2001-2016 she worked at the Institute of National Remembrance, for 5 years she was the head of the IPN Educational Centre “Przystanek Historia” in Warsaw. At the same time, she worked as a teacher at the 81st General Secondary School in Warsaw. She is the author of many educational publications on the subject of the Holocaust, including: co-author of "Selection of Sources for Teaching about the Holocaust". The series of podcasts of the Warsaw Ghetto Museum on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising is prepared and hosted by Michał Kukawski.