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In this third section of the topic, objections (hearsay or reference questions), I refer to judgment 46887 of 2017, MP DR. LUIS ANTONIO HERNANDEZ BARBOSA, where the line of Jurisprudence is clear in pointing out that the expert who testifies in the oral trial is not a reference or hearsay, everything that the victim tells him in the performance of his work is to support his expert study, but it cannot be confused with the admissible reference evidence. Law 1452 introduced a modification to the criminal procedure code, allowing interviews by qualified personnel in the case of minors who are victims of sexual violence, who may go to trial under these conditions, to introduce the content of the interview and why not the document or statement where this statement is contained. There is an admissible reference evidence in accordance with article 438, which has a diminished suassorial value because a sentence cannot be issued solely and exclusively on reference evidence, but it is analyzed in the evidentiary context that is provided at the trial, even with indications.