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Michał Rusinek was Wisława Szymborska's secretary, and now he runs her Foundation. So we have to ask him a very important question: did the Nobel Prize or the sanah do more for the popularity of Wisława Szymborska's poetry? However, the pretext for the meeting is his new book, "Nadbagaż czyli turystyka podróżne" (Excess Baggage or Travel Tales), and he himself is a master of anecdote. Why is the ability to tell a story so important and can it be learned? Is it better to write or listen after drinking? Michał Rusinek talks about which first sentences from books are his favorites, what title he could read without a break, and what he thinks about the lyrics of Doda's song "Waterfalls". Among the topics are also the phenomenon of Zenon Martyniuk's popularity, ethical issues of building Dagmara Kaźmierska's popularity, and political issues, although mainly linguistic ones. Which politician speaks best? And when does how he says become more important than what he says? We invite you to listen. Podcast WojewódzkiKędzierski has commercial partners #paidcooperation CHECK ALSO: Instagram: / wojewodzkikedzierski TikTok: / wojewodzkikedzierski WHERE TO LISTEN? Onet Audio: https://onetaudio.app.link/dfUHvGgyoxb Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0PADmFz... YouTube: / wojewodzkikędzierski Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/pl/podcast...