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One of the most modern thinkers in Brazil and the scientist who is one of the most important names in biogenetics in the world. The meeting between Mayana Zatz, 77 years old and Luiz Felipe Pondé, 65 years old. Philosophy and science trying to understand maturation and the passage of time. Mayana told us about her recent research on Brazilian centenarians, studying DNA and collecting testimonies from these people, where she discovered the so-called Protective Genes. The genes that only some people have and that allow them to live longer even in a less favorable environment. And Pondé, who brought us with his intelligence and fine irony, the caricatured image that is made of the elderly today and at the same time a deep questioning about ageism and the difference between generations. An open chat with several encounters of ideas and visions about these many Times that we will live in the second phase of life. It is worth watching the full episode. Candice Pomi wears @liha.store and handmade jewelry @obeloimperfeito We are on Apple, Spotify and main audio platforms. If you prefer, visit our YouTube channel. Tantos Tempos Podcast is a partnership with Estadão Blue Studio. The Tantos Tempos Podcast is an original idea from Orson Podcast and produced by RFN Audiovisual and Lucha Libre Audio. Recorded at RFN Audiovisual in São Paulo. Presented by: Candice Pomi @beyond.age Conceptualization and script: Carol Soutello, Aaron Sutton and Paulinho Corccione Art direction/production direction: Raul Ferreira Neto Audio coordination: Paulinho Corcione and Thacio Palanca Executive production: Cristina Horowicz Guest production: Sula Vlachos @orson.podcast