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In August of last year, professor, philosopher and artist Marcia Tiburi participated in an enlightened and enlightening chat with Reinaldo and Walfrido in “Reconversa”. In the summer edition, we highlight excerpts from that meeting. “Naive feminist or extremist with an iPhone?” Marcia escapes these generalizations of the shallow left and the truculent right. Her thinking is essential, especially in these days when scoundrels try to naturalize fascism as if it were our second nature.