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In this episode, Gabriel Trindade and Thiago Salinas welcome Professor Ledo Vaccaro. With over four decades of teaching experience, Ledo caught the attention of the general public when the cuts of his classes - especially those of IMPA's PAPMEM - were released on YouTube. In this light and pleasant conversation, the professor talked about his life as a student, talked about his relationship with legends of Mathematics Education in the country, such as Elon Lages Lima and Augusto Morgado, and, of course, brought us his unique vision of Mathematics. This is a podcast made by those who love Education, for everyone who loves the subject.