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A conversation between Ivan Vasin and Alisher Khasanov about how to make a lot of money doing design. Ivan Vasin is a creative director and partner at the Shuka brand bureau, a teacher and author of the Identity and Brand Design course at the British Higher School of Design. Alisher Khasanov is a consultant in the development, growth and launch of products, services, and companies, and a co-founder of GdeMaterial. We have launched Alisher Khasanov's offline intensive course "Business Reboot"! Design studios present their business models, products, or services and receive feedback from other companies and a consultant on what can be improved. You can find out more and sign up here: https://bangbangeducation.ru/intensiv... Website: https://bangbangeducation.ru/ Facebook: / bangbangeducation Instagram: / bangbangeducation VK: https://vk.com/bangbangeducation Telegram: https://t.me/bangbangeducation