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First he called it off, then he backed down and this year the main organizer Endre Zsolnai organized the 20th anniversary Santa Claus Factory. But this was probably the last one, because although those in need would be in great need of help, “Hungary does not need the Santa Claus Factory and the Endre Zsolnai behind it,” he said in the last broadcast of this year on Fülke Extra. The main organizer looked back on the past 19 years of the charitable organization with ruthless honesty – and self-criticism – and spoke for the first time about how the seemingly glamorous Santa Claus party had ruined him financially and how his wallet had become filled with empty promises year after year. Since he was only able to organize the fundraising campaign with the help of Cecília Rogán and Lőrinc Mészáros’ company, the opposition has been stigmatizing him and the media has been attacking him. Meanwhile, he attends opposition and pro-Gábor Iványi demonstrations, but even in such situations he was told to "get out of there, because he's a NER knight". Fill out the HVG Podcasts listener questionnaire! forms.gle/WJpLqt69HsxAzsXt6 Subscribe to the Fülke channel! Spotify: tiny.cc/FulkeSpotify Apple Podcasts: tiny.cc/FulkeApple Listen to HVG's other podcasts: Spotify: tiny.cc/HVGpodcastokSpotify Apple Podcasts: tiny.cc/HVGpodcastokApple SoundCloud: tiny.cc/HVGpodcastokSC 00:00 Intro 00:42 The still shiny beginnings: who and how did the Santa Claus Factory invent 20 years ago? 04:35 How is it decided where all the donations go? 06:45 How did even the Hungarian Post Office stand behind them? 11:21 Is the Santa Factory necessary or not? 14:56 It was a media heck to announce the end 21:24 How did NER appear in the Santa Factory and what did it bring with it 25:31 Can the Hungarian public relate to political divisions? 28:02 If there is no solidarity, how can the Santa Factory exist? 40:01 How did your life go to maintain the Santa Factory? 44:05 Did the influential supporters sincerely help or were they just used as a PR stunt? 50:32 Why did the government side also withdraw its support for the Santa Factory? 01:02:06 Is the farewell real or can there be a continuation? 01:07:13 Why are the big supporters important, why not the many helpful people? 01:10:42 Would you hand over the brand to someone else?