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Even when we haven't read Freud in the text, we often use his best-known notions. We wonder what our unconscious is trying to tell us when we dream that the building opposite is collapsing, or when we make a slip of the tongue... But is the unconscious as Freud theorized it at the beginning of the 20th century, in Vienna, really the same as ours today? Hervé Mazurel is a historian at the University of Burgundy. In his latest book, The Unconscious or the Forgetting of History (La Découverte, 2021), he reminds us that, contrary to what Freud claimed, psychic mechanisms are not universal invariants that we could understand separately from their context. Our emotional lives are inseparable from the major changes affecting our societies. How does society act on us? Where does our superego come from? How does History shape our unconscious? With Hervé Mazurel Also with Pierre-Henri Castel, psychoanalyst, historian and philosopher at the CNRS REFERENCES: Hervé Mazurel, The Unconscious or the Forgetting of History, La Découverte, 2022 Hervé Mazurel and Elizabeth Serin, “Dreams of the Borderlands. Sketches on Dream Life in the Time of Covid19 and Lockdown”, in Jacqueline Carroy (ed.), “The Circulation of Dreams”, Communications, No. 108, Seuil, May 2021 Pierre-Henri Castel, “Narcissism and the Process of Civilization. For a sociological reading », Zilsel, 8, 2021 Georges Didi Huberman, The Invention of Hysteria, Macula, 1982 Norbert Elias, The Civilization of Morals, 1939 Sigmund Freud and Breuer, Studies on Hysteria, 1895 Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents, 1930 Available until 01/20/2029 To keep Les idées grandes, find other interviews with Laura Raim here • ???? Les idées grandes Subscribe to the ARTE channel / @arte Follow us on social media! Instagram: / artefr TikTok: / artefr Facebook: / artetv Twitter: / artefr