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Shame is a creepy and paralyzing feeling. We can even be ashamed of our shame! Shame on us for living up to our greatest potential. What is male shame? Is it more shameful to experience shame as a man than as a woman? What kind of distress does feeling shame raise and where does that distress come from in us? In their conversation, Tommi and Tommy clarify where the roots of shame lie and what shame really is. Tommi Pitkälä, student at the Tommy Hellsten Institute, Software Architect Check out our training program: http://www.ihminentavatavaiss.fi