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Welcome to the 26th episode of the podcast De Verliescirkel. Today you can listen to the interview with Manu Keirse and in the second half with Tinie Kämink. Time to pay attention to a little-recognized loss in this podcast: that of a brother or sister. In childhood but also as an adult. Or about brothers and sisters who died before you were born. That also has a major impact. For this, Riet spoke with the well-known Flemish loss expert and author of an impressive number of books on grief, Manu Keirse. And she spoke with Tinie Kämink, grief therapist and expert by experience, who lost a brother and two sisters between the ages of 5 and 12 due to a hereditary condition. Enjoy this episode, love Hanneke Fiddelaers Would you like to know more about De Verliescirkel, our work at the Expertise Center for Dealing with Loss or do you have any questions? Then take a look at our website or feel free to send us an email.