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Enzo Bianchi. Fifty-five years spent in the monastic community of Bose, which he founded in 1965, after studying Economics. Choosing an abandoned hamlet of Magnano, on the Serra di Ivrea. A reality that came to count 92 presences and of which he was prior until 2017. Then, at the end of 2019, the vicissitudes, the controversy and his removal, on the indication of the Holy See, which forbade him to return. Thus the choice to start over, buying with friends and "a ten-year mortgage" a farmhouse in Albiano, in the Turin area, to "be able to live in peace in the last years of life". An existence of dialogue between Christians, which also earned him an award for "having animated, promoted and accepted the comparison and understanding with all other religious confessions". A man of God - Enzo Bianchi is considered -, for whom "ethics is constantly elaborated in history, in the journey made alongside and together with other men". On the other side Piergiorgio Odifreddi, mathematician, logician, academic and essayist from Cuneo. He has dealt with science in general to the impact of mathematics in literature, music, painting, philosophy and also in theology. Receiving particular critical attention as "anticlerical". Starting from the publication (in 2007) of his "Why we cannot be Christians (and even less Catholics)". And Odifreddi also places himself at the center of a constant dialectic.