Eligible, Dirceu talks with Reinaldo and Walfrido about the future of the PT and the paradox of democracies today

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“Reconversa” interviewed José Dirceu in April of this year. He was then awaiting a decision from the Supreme Court regarding a correct request to annul his convictions, a decision made by Justice Gilmar Mendes in October. We had a chat that lasted two hours, which we have now condensed into the podcast’s vacation retrospective. Those who watched it can review the main moments; those who didn’t will understand why the architect of the alliance policy that led the party to the Presidency in five of nine direct elections continues to be the best interpreter of the party’s past and future. Dirceu reflects with special insight on these days. The minister states, for example: “The historical cycle we are experiencing is counterrevolutionary and, worse, it is far-right. There is a clash of civilizations like there was in 1968. Who defends racial and gender equality, diversity, democracy and the environment the most? The world’s largest corporations. Who pays the price for defending the so-called identity agenda? It is the left, which correctly defends [these agendas]. So this shock finds a large portion of the population of each country either unemployed or without hope in the state and in the future.” How can we get out of a paradox in which there are elites, at the top of the pyramid, with a progressive agenda, and impoverished masses who are often conservative and even reactionary? Find out what José Dirceu’s answers are.

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