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Dr. Hendri Saparini (founder and economist of CORE Indonesia) dissects the challenges of Indonesia's economic growth, which he believes can be solved with careful public policies. Discussing holistically the dynamics of the Indonesian economy—starting from the middle class, MSMEs, taxes, the role of the private sector, employment, downstreaming, foreign investment, inequality, growth potential, to reviving economic activities in villages. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #HendriSaparini ----------------- Other Endgame episodes you might also like: • The Grasak-grusuk Leader and the Id Trap • Jusuf Kalla: This is the Vice Presi... • Can the Sandwich Generation Have a Rum... ----------------- Join the Endgame Channel Subscription so we can continue to provide quality content: https://sgpp.me/becomemember ----------------- Explore and discuss this episode further at https://endgame.id/ ----------------- For collaboration and cooperation invitations, contact us here: https://sgpp.me/contactus ----------------- 'Course Subject' 0:00:00 - Intro 0:01:31 - From Kebumen to Japan 0:08:28 - Why haven't our MSMEs moved up a class? 0:14:50 - “It takes courage from the government to change” 0:21:42 - “Creativity in policy-making is key” 0:29:08 - Create jobs according to the workforce 0:35:54 - Economic growth: Who is it really for? 0:42:25 - Deindustrialization is too early 0:54:12 - Fiscal is absorbed by monetary, when will it circulate? 0:59:04 - Medium industries can also get investors 1:05:05 - Reduce “quick win” programs in the next 5 years 1:09:17 - Women and highly educated leaders 1:16:32 - Opportunity, income, wealth gaps