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Ever wondered why Indonesia is still not truly independent? Indonesia is facing complex economic challenges. National debt has reached a record high of Rp8,444 trillion! Of course, this condition will greatly narrow fiscal space. How will the new government address the debt legacy and its impact on government programs? In this episode, we have the opportunity to present a special resource person, Mr. Faisal Basri, a senior economist at INDEF and economic activist. Let's dissect together the problem of mounting national debt and its impact on people's welfare. Don't miss it! Share your opinion in the comments column and don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss the latest episode. #indef #podcastINDEF #ekonomiIndonesia #utannegara #indonesiamaju #faisalbasri #hilirisasi