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When we met Antal Rogán in London the weekend before the election, he promised to give an interview to 444. The 70-minute conversation took place in Karmelita on the morning of June 13. "I don't see them causing mass anxiety," he said of the wartime government poster campaign. According to him, there is no government media empire, and it has no role in discrediting campaigns. He talks about his own work as follows: he works in the government back office. Reporter: Balázs Kaufmann Editor: Gergő Plankó Cinematographer: Bendegúz Kovács, Kristóf Balázs, Zsófi Szász Editor: Bence Kiss Join the 444 Circle: https://magyarjeti.hu/kor/päckok Books and magazines: https://magyarjeti. hu/shop/ https://www.444.hu/ / 444.hu / negynegynegy / 4negy4 00:00 What exactly does Antal Rogán do? 6:55 The task of the Prime Minister's Cabinet Office 13:13 Antal Rogán and the secret services 18:10 The billions spent on government campaigns 27:30 The war campaign 35:10 Measurements and Antal Rogán's popularity 41:50 Antal Rogán, the inventor 44:50 Rogán's chief of staff , Ádám Nagy 47:07 The Schadl case 51:45 Judit Varga's statements on the audio recording 54:40 Rogán and the government media 1:00:00 Antal Rogán and Péter Magyar 1:04:35 Antal Rogán lighting a candle for Ukraine 1:05: 54 What are your plans and ambitions for this system?