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While power harassment from superiors to subordinates has become a problem, in recent years, attention has been focused on the existence of "monster subordinates" who in turn harass their superiors. There have also been reported cases where superiors have accumulated stress while interacting with subordinates, such as a case where a superior was sued for reprimanding a subordinate who did not follow business etiquette. On the other hand, there is still a strong opinion that in order for a company to grow, subordinates should be given strict education and leaders should give strong instructions from the top down. How should we deal with the rapidly increasing number of monster subordinates? We have invited Maeno Takashi, Kawai Kaoru, Sawa Madoka, Yasuda Masahiko, and Omuro Masashi to hold an in-depth discussion.