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---- The entire program in the ARD media library: https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/mai... Benjamin von Stuckrad-Barre and Martin Suter talk about their friendship and the connection they share despite different life paths and experiences. Both describe how they met on the Baltic Sea, exchanged perspectives in conversation, and decided to record their conversations. An important topic of their conversations is dealing with personal losses, such as the death of Martin Suter's wife or Stuckrad-Barre's father. Both authors talk about their tragic experiences that have profoundly changed their lives: "Time doesn't heal wounds - you have to learn to live with these wounds," says Suter. You can't end the grief. Von Stuckrad-Barre talks about his therapy experience: "I started it for medical reasons and continued it out of interest in learning more." It is interesting for him to "take a distance from yourself, to understand who you are, who the others are." The entire broadcast from November 27th, 2024 can be found here: https://www.ardmediathek.de/video/mai... All broadcasts in the ARD media library: https://www.ardmediathek.de/sendung/m... Also guests were: Joe Kaeser (Manager and Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Siemens Energy) Petra Gerster (moderator and author) Michael Bröcker (Table.Briefings) Yasmine M'Barek (Zeit Online) Twitter: / maischberger #talk #maischberger #CDU #AmpelAus #Laschet