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This is an excerpt from Business with presenter Thomas van Zijl. Our guest is macro-economist Arnoud Boot. According to the CBS Business Cycle Clock, the Dutch economic picture is slightly less negative in December than in November. This means that the economy has been adjusted slightly more positively. According to macro-economist Arnoud Boot, these figures do not say much. He jokingly advocates two new indicators for the Central Bureau of Statistics: a waste indicator and a whining index. 'We are apparently prepared to spend a lot of money on nonsense, I consider fireworks to be an example of that.' Thumbnail: ANP Do you need more BNR in your life? Then also check out our podcasts and articles: https://www.bnr.nl/ Follow us on other social media: Instagram: / bnrnieuwsradio TikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZML5nvq2A/ Twitter: / bnr Facebook: / bnr.nieuwsradio LinkedIn: / bnr-nieuwsradio Download the BNR app: https://www.bnr.nl/app