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The guest: Tal Bruttmann, historian The book: Tal Bruttmann, Stefan Hördler and Christoph Kreutzmüller, An album from Auschwitz. How the Nazis Photographed Their Crimes, Paris, Seuil, 2023. The discussion: Introduction (00:00) The discovery of partly unpublished photos taken by Zbigniew Leszek Grzywaczewski during the Warsaw ghetto uprising in 1943 (2:30) Biography of an object: Lili Jacob's album (5:00) The key role of Serge Klarsfeld in its transformation into a document for history… (10:15) …but the absence of a properly historical perspective on photos used as illustrations, often in an erroneous or decontextualized way (11:45) A collective book, with a distribution of roles and skills between the three authors (15:20) Working methods (17:30) Auschwitz, a place that is not a secret (24:00) Is it more challenging to work on photos? (27:15) An album that is structurally misleading about what it does and does not show of the murder of Jews (28:30) Discussion of photo 118 (32:00) Photos that, like Nazi language, combine efficiency and euphemization (33:00) The specific context of the spring of 1944, with the tensions and contradictions of Nazi policy (36:00) The SS photographers of the album, Walter and Hoffmann (39:00) The work of contextualization and identification: people, wagons, convoys… (43:00) An album using the codes of Nazi anti-Semitism (47:45) The violence behind euphemism (49:00) The sorting and “valorization” of “effects” , an integral part of the assassination process (52:30) Photography and “dehumanization” (53:30) The irreducible specificity of the context of this album: these are not not generic photos of the Shoah (57:15) Against the idea of an absence of images of the Shoah: the profusion of iconographic documents (1:01:15) including drawings (1:05:00) Analysis of photo 27 (1:10:00)